Towing a Centaur

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Towing a Centaur

Postby Swanrad » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:34 pm

Hi

I am moving my Centaur home for refitting (extensive) before moving onwards to the lakes- one of the issues is the engine so transporting by land. I am considering buying a car transporter and towing with something like a range rover. Any suggestions ref the trailer (type, capacity, axles etc, etc) as this suggestion seems to make some sense.

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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby SeaJay » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:08 pm

Before getting Mudlark, a Griffin Mk1.5, I owned an Anderson 22 which I kept on a four-wheeled braked trailer at home. The all-up mass of boat and trailer was about 1.8 tonnes, with the trailer itself weighing just under 0.5 tonne. The maximum towing weight for my Nissan Xtrail was 2 tonne with a 150kg nose weight. The biggest concern that I have will be the weight of your boat and trailer which I suspect could exceed 3.5 tonnes. I can't remember the rules, but i seem to recall anything over 3.5 tonnes needing power operated braking i.e. like a truck. Also, as a guide for a driver new to towing many experts suggest a maximum trailer mass of 85% of the kerb mass of the towing vehicle.

So I think before selecting the trailer, I would check the likely total gross mass of the trailer (i.e. weight of trailer and boat combined), whether you have/ can get a vehicle capable of pulling it and whether your license allows you to tow this.

Other than this, easy!

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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby aquaplane » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:07 pm

In the UK, up to 3.5Te you can use a 50mm ball hitch and over run brakes. Over that you need a ring/pin hitch and brakes that work when the pedal is pressed like on a lorry as stated above.
Landrovers are rated to 3.5Te but can be modified (the brakes) to go to 4Te I found out recently.
Folk do have trailers for Centaurs, and at least one trailer company says they do a trailer for a Centaur.
The WOA site quotes the weight of a Centaur as 3Te.
Folks have said that the crane driver weighed their boat and it was more like 4Te with gear aboard. And then you need a substantial trailer.
I don't think you can tow a Centaur legaly, but folk do it, I know someone who does, I wouldn't.

If you aren't in the UK, a Range Rover will do it. Not many cars weigh 4Te so I don't know if you will get a car transporter to take the weight or the length.

Other than this it's easy.
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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby Swanrad » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:29 pm

Cheers, the old salt who said we could looked a little over-confident in my opinion!

Low loader and second mortgage it is then.

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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby aquaplane » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:21 am

The low loader is the most cost effective bit of the opperation, especially for a short trip.

I'm taking my Centaur off Windermere to Scotland. The lifts each end are going to be £250, the road transport for the 60 miles to Whitehaven will be about £300.
The transport came to be the same price as the lifts if I had the boat moved to one of the Clyde marinas.
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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby simonk » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:25 am

Or if you have a local transport company with a hiab. They can load & un-load without the need of a crane at either end & with bilge keels it'll sit on the flat bed.
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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby sakean99 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:53 pm

Is that right? 4T on a Hiab, plus the necessary reach? I've no idea, but it sounds impressive to me given the size of cranes normally used at boat lifts.
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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby aquaplane » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:50 am

sakean99 wrote:Is that right? 4T on a Hiab, plus the necessary reach? I've no idea, but it sounds impressive to me given the size of cranes normally used at boat lifts.

I thought that too.
I looked at renting a lorry with Hiab and one to fit a Centaur with a big enough lift would be above the 7.5Te that I can drive.
A lorry driving mate said it was a complicated job getting someone to drive the Hiab too, he could drive a bigger lorry than me.
Of course if you are paying a haulier they provide a suitably qualified man.
Do Hiabs have a long drop facility. Lowering bricks or boats to ground level is fine, what about several feet below ground level over the harbour wall and down to the water?
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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby simonk » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:36 am

I wouldn't want to do it myself, these usually come with a qualified driver who are experienced in this game.

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Re: Towing a Centaur

Postby sakean99 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:01 am

Fairy Nuff, Simon, that's a pretty impressive bit of kit & quite a step up fron the usual "pallet of bricks" HIABs. It might need to be a pretty speciallised hire-co tho, but probably still cheaper than a flatbed Plus a Crane.
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